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0:00 Grandmother's a corner of the bracha. Frieda bas Moshe Yosef is a corner of the bracha. We hope that in the merit of our talmud torah her neshama will have an aliyah and the family in a nachas. All right, Rebbeim say let's begin. Hametz u've base hakosos. So moving moving our way, we're making our exciting journey through the kishkes of the animal. So now we're up to the metzitz and the base hakosos. So what says the Mishnah? We're going to be 0:22 focusing on the base hakosos, which is a which we translate as the reticulum. It's one of the stomachs of the animal. So here we go. Turn around. So what says the Mishnah? The Mishnah said if the base hakosos is perforated, so ultimately again we're going to discuss the nature of the perforation, ultimately the animal is a treifa. Says the right turn around on meches she nimtza is ba'av base hakosos. 0:43 If you find a needle inside the reticulum and the base hakosos, so what says the what's the halacha? Mitzad echad ksheira. If the needle only perforates one side, ultimately again it is kosher. B'shnei tz'dadim, but if it perforates both sides, i.e. the inside and the outside, then treifa. Then the animal is a treifa. What says the Mishnah? It says nimtzah l'kores dam. 1:04 What happens if halacha l'maaseh you find Rebbeim say on the needle a little speck of blood? Then the halacha is b'yadua min ha'alef b'yadua she'alef nishchita. Then you know that halacha l'maaseh that the puncture occurred before shchita. Because Rebbeim say remember again, the issue you always have with the puncture of internal organs is did it occur before the shchita or after the shchita? Before the 1:28 shchita the animal is a treifa. After the shchita the animal is just fine. So it's a lot of times you just can't tell. So therefore you just go safek d'oraisa l'chumra. This interesting case where you're finding a needle in the reticulum, so the Gemara says as follows. If you find blood around the needle, that is a sign that the puncture occurred before shchita. If you find no 1:51 blood around the needle, that indicates that what? That the puncture occurred after the shchita. So the Gemara says "Higlid piam aka this is amazing." What happens non with all of 51 A three lines down from the top. Higlid piam aka what say what happens if a scab formed around the wound then what's the halacha? This is actually amazing. Be a du shishlo shi yamin kodem shrita. What say if you see 2:15 the wound and it's scabbed that means that the wound scabbed at least three days or I should say within three days of the shrita. Lo higlid piam aka if it did not scab ultimately again I won't see me have a lot of rights what say this halacha has nothing to do with shrita this has to do with kosher mishpat. So, what will say what happens I buy an animal from Ruvein this is actually very exciting. I buy an animal from Ruvein 2:39 and what say what happens? What happens? I shakt it I open it up and sure enough what do I find? Needle in the reticulum you hate it when that happens right? A needle in the reticulum. So, what say so now I go to Ruvein and I say listen mekahtos right? You sold me a treifa you sold me a treifa. So, what say say so do I have a claim or not? So, the Gemara says it depends. If halacha l'maiseh again there was a scab on it so that means 3:01 ultimately again that this happened this happened within three days. If it doesn't have a scab then ultimately again higlid piam aka be a du shishlo shi yamin kodem so if you look at Rashi be a du a shishlo shi gimel yamin kodem shrita then l'chah be shishlo shi yamin therefore what will say if it has a scab then it's known that ultimately this happened within the last three days and therefore if I bought it in the last three days having mekahtos. What say it is a mistake in sale and I have the 3:26 right to go ahead and demand my money back. If there's no scab then what will say it's also possible that what that it just happened and therefore again I can have no mekahtos. So, the Gemara goes weiter u'maishna mikon de kuvei d'alma. What will say now interestingly enough why this case of the reticulum is different than all of the other perforations we spoke about until now why? De'af agav de'leka dam taruf. So, 3:51 what will say listen to this. This is actually very interesting. In all of the other cases of preparations, which really is only we've been focusing on the lungs, when it comes to the lungs for example, we'll say never before have we ever made mention of this concept of a speck of blood. See what we just said over here by the reticulum, if there's a speck of blood by the puncture, the animal is a trayfa. That indicates that the puncture happened before shrita. If 4:15 there's no speck of blood by the puncture, then ultimately the animal is not a trayfa. So, I don't understand you never make this distinction by lungs, let's say? By lungs, all we're looking for is punctures. We're not looking for any type of speck of blood. So, the Gemara says, So, what will say, here's the difference. In the case of the lungs that we were talking about, we were talking about a stem perforation. We'll 4:43 say there was no needle that was embedded in the organ. So, what will say, here in the case of the reticulum that the Mishna is talking about is where mamesh the needle is still embedded in the reticulum. So, what will say, because the needle is there, therefore we'll say what, there is a hard surface for the blood to adhere to. We know that when you pierce the reticulum, there is blood. If this happened before the shrita, then there 5:12 should be blood on the needle. If there's no blood on the needle, that indicates to us that this occurred after the shrita. So, essentially the Gemara is saying over here is that it's not as much a distinction in the nature of the organ, but rather it's just a distinction in the nitzias of the Mishna. In the case of the lung, there was no needle that was still there. 5:30 There was a puncture, but no needle still present. In the case of in the case over here of the reticulum, the needle is still present. If blood is present, then that's a trayfa. If there's no blood, then it happened after the shrita, it's not a trayfa. Amar Rav Safra l'Abaye. So, Rav Safra said to Abaye, "Chazi mar." Listen to this case, we'll say. "Chazi mar." hates women there is this Khakham 5:57 who came from right who came came from the west the Amar Rav Avira Shameni and he said my name is Rav Avira okay so remember this talking to Abaye so is this Khakham showed up from the west and he said that his name is Rav Avira okay and this this came along and he said the following my soul by the funny 6:21 I'm sorry my soul by the Rebbi then this Rav Avira gave testimony about a situation that happened in by with Rebbi and what happened with Rebbi Mecha says but will be Khosos one time an animal came before Rebbi and there was a needle that was found in the reticulum Meats Echod and what happened the needle had only had only pierced one side of the reticulum it didn't it didn't pierce all 6:45 the way through it pierced the inside or the outside the Tarfa and Rebbi declared it to be a Trayfa now I will say this is very intriguing why because this goes against what we just learned before what did we just learn what did we just learn we learned that if it only pierces one side it's not a Trayfa in order to be a Trayfa it has to pierce both sides apparently now we have Rebbi testifying about an animal that was pierced on one side and yet Rebbi 7:07 declared it a Trayfa what's going on over here so Shalak so I will say so what happens so this is actually very interesting so Abaye sent for this Rav Avira he sent for him come come and talk to me about this but for whatever the reason Rav Avira would not come to Rebbi okay Azol Hula Gabe so Abaye went to Rav 7:30 Avira have a Koi Egra when he comes to Rav Avira's house or wherever he's staying he finds Rav Avira on the roof Avira on the roof okay whatever the reason. I'm going Vinais to buy calls up come on to come down here. Let's talk. 7:50 I wouldn't come down. I buy goes up on the roof. By the way, just just you understand I don't mean to take any way of the drama from the story, but understand again their roofs were were were not sloped roofs, right? They were they were flat roofs. Again, I'm not taking away from it, but still it's interesting. So I was saying what what are the fans? What are the fans? Right. So I was saying so I buy obviously is very 8:18 intrigued about this episode that was described in the name of Rebbe. So he says to I hear tell me tell me the episode of Rebbe. Tell me what happened with that case of the reticulum. So first of all gives a little bit of introduction to who he is. I'm going to like master can I see you Anna? So it's actually very interesting. If you look at Rashi, he says master can I see 8:42 you Anna? Magnus or moti at a meeting. So I say apparently I hear I said I am like the guy by. I'm the guy by the base manager. What was the job of the guy by the base manager? I decide who comes in. I decide who goes out, right? And ultimately again I gather the time meeting ultimately for to learn in the base manager. It's very interesting. So it was a powerful position. She said I'm 9:09 the I'm the guy by the base manager and ultimately again and ultimately again I always have a I have a seat, right? I'm very close to Rebbe. To Rebbe. I see my doll. I will say one time Rebbe Yossi is sitting before Rebbe. I bought some lift my Rebbe baby sack of sauce. I will say this so I say what happened and the case came 9:35 up of Rebbe of a somebody brought an animal with reticulum and it was pierced on one side by a needle. The half Rebbe, Rebbe turned it inside out, so he turned it around. The tarfa. So it's a tarfa. So we'll say oh. So now watch this. Here Here's the case. Now you can see what it's like. 9:53 It's also Most of this came out by the way is also when you get information second hand, very often it's not fully reliable. See, here's the actual story. The reticulum came before Rebbe. It was punctured on one side. So for argument's sake, let's say it was punctured on the inside. 10:11 On the outside of the reticulum, there was a spot of blood. There was a spot of blood. Rebbe sees that's on the inside it's pierced, on the outside there's a spot of blood. Rebbe declared it a treifa. Why did he declare it a treifa? The amar If there was no wound there, then where did that drop of blood come from? So Rebbe Rebbe understood the presence of the drop of blood to be 10:38 indicative of the fact that that animal was actually punctured on both sides. So Rebbe So it turns out that's what? That the initial report that Abaye received was incorrect. Rebbe did not make an animal a treifa that was only pierced on one side. It was actively pierced on one side. There was a speck of blood on the other side and Rebbe understood the speck of blood to be indicative that 11:00 that animal was pierced on the outside also. Whatever just happened, it healed, it it it scabbed over, whatever it is, but where there's a speck of blood, Rebbe understood there is a wound. Therefore, he declared it a treifa. So as listen to this. Abaye hears this and he says something interesting. Amarle Amarle So Abaye says ah, I can't I came here for nothing. Right? I came here for nothing, right? Such for this man and 11:25 all for nothing. I came here, I called you, I managed scaled the house, I got up to the roof and all for nothing. He says as well say whatever I was saying was okay, there's no this here. There's no this here. This is our mission how messed up this is so what I say so I buy essentially understood this suck of Rebbe to be a double positive to 11:47 be obvious that I may say again when the animal is pierced on both sides the animal is a treif. Even if all you see on one of the sides is a speck of blood that in and of itself is indicative that the animal has been pierced. Good. So what I say that concludes this discussion. So when it comes to this reticulum that I look at it is that the reticulum needs to be pierced on both sides. The presence of a speck of blood ultimately 12:12 indicates that again the animal has been pierced and we saw how these apply ultimately to Mishpat to transactional law as well. Good. Enough lemon I got so what again the mission has spoke about an animal which fell off the roof. So remember again the mission has says or with the 12:35 so what I say so other examples of potential treif of situations is where an animal falls off the roof. As we're going to see in just a moment the issue of concern when an animal falls off roof is what we call re suck a volume. So what I say literally means like a mashing up of the limbs. 12:52 We're going to see this actually going to be its own good later on or separate good later on but essentially for our purposes we're concerned that certain like the vertebrae get dislodged and that the animal essentially develops some type of internal injury which ultimately is life threatening even if externally it doesn't present that way. 13:09 So enough lemon I got so they listen to this. He was having a person leaves his animal on the roof and then you find your animal on the ground. And what you say is what I say don't have to be concerned that maybe the animal fell down and ultimately again had this what's called reshus hayachid varim and had this again this dislodging of the limbs. 13:34 So let's say so this is actually very important. The idea being even though my animal was on the roof and now it's on the ground. It will say one thing I know for sure which is right? It fell, it jumped. We're going to see these distinctions but the idea is I don't have to be the mar is saying I don't have to be concerned for reshus hayachid varim if I don't see a traumatic event. We're going to see why that is. Listen to this story. How who got ya? 13:57 Chad Gadya Chad Gadya the Hava Nagila right? So I So Ravina had a had one Gadya. I don't know the I don't know how how much he bought it for but the idea is right Ravina had a Gadya he had he had a he had a sheep. The chaza chushla b'puma d'gar. So let's listen to this. So Ravina's Ravina's g'di his ewe right? His his sheep is on the rooftop. So it's standing by the 14:22 rooftop I will say what happens? And it's standing by the rooftop right by a skylight. It sees through the skylight some little literally again Rashi says um chushla. Chushla is peeled barley. So it's the g'di so the sheep is standing on the roof looking through the skylight sees peeled barley through the skylight. 14:44 What happens? Naflam me'igra l'ara. The sheep fell through the skylight onto the ground. So I see you look at me Rashi. So they brought the animal for Rashi and you what's the what's the status? Is the animal a cheifa or not? Amri lei chadam Rav Puna hinich leima l'mala u'va matza l'mata in chosheshin me'isukei varim. So let's analyze this. When we said before that if your animal is on the roof and 15:07 then you find your animal on the ground that you don't have to be choshesh because of reshus hayachid varim. Why is that? Is that mishum the to you can say like this. When an animal is on a roof and it wants to get to the ground what could it do? It will say it could kind of to a certain degree scale the wall, meaning it has the wall to hold on to. That's how we could assume that animal could get from a roof to the ground without risk of injury. If that's 15:32 the logic that it's the ability to hold on to the wall that makes all the difference, then what? That doesn't apply in this case. Why doesn't it apply in this case? Because how is the animal getting down? From a skylight. When say a skylight we assume it's centered somewhere, excuse me, in the middle of the roof of the home, not by a wall. 15:50 If that's the case in this situation, the g'di has nothing to hold on to, and maybe that we should be because of injury. So the said or maybe say an animal an animal even if we want to say an animal doesn't have like we're talking about however say but an animal has that's enough to gauge what's dangerous, what's not dangerous. So an animal knows 16:19 what kind of jump it could make, right? And knows what kind of jump it can't make. So if the animal is when the animal if the animal's on the roof and lands on the ground, we assume there's no risk of injury. Why? Because the animal is able to gauge for itself what type of jump it could make. If that's the case of a high under say even in this case of the g'di that jumps through the skylight, we could 16:42 assume the g'di only did this when if the g'di knows that it's capable of handling this jump. I'm right to say say you know which one is it? What's the status of the g'di? I'm right to say say we assume that when an animal is jumping of its own volition from a high point to a low point that the animal has the requisite to gauge 17:07 that it can make this jump safely and properly and therefore we are not for risk of injury. Pretty amazing. Therefore in the case of the g'di not be a treif. Later, ha ha hi imreisa, d'hava bei Rav Kahana. What was it was imreisa, this is actually this is a you. Right, the sheep, we'll just call it we can call it for lack of a we're just going to call everything sheep today. Right, there was this imreisa, there was a sheep, d'havei 17:34 bei Rav Kahana. So, it was the ultimately again, it was in Rav Kahana's household. D'hava is actually very interesting, d'hava shazron karei basraisa. What was it interesting enough, this sheep was dragging its hind legs before it. So, it was walking on its front legs and dragging its hind legs behind it. Am Rav Yemar, so we'll say so what's the shailo over here? So, Rav Yemar says, the 17:58 animal is not a treifah, rather shigruna naktei. The it must be that its hind legs are cramping, that's why it's just dragging them. Maskif Ravina, so Ravina raised the kasha, the dilma chud hashidra ifsik. No, maybe it was a there's a spinal cord injury. Maybe that's why it's dragging its legs. It has a spinal cord injury and I will say a spinal cord injury would absolutely make the animal a treifah. 18:22 How do you assume it's a cramp? It could just as easily be a spinal cord injury. If so, we'll say what happens? Bad kooah ashke Ravina. So, sure enough they examined the animal we'll say and they found out that Ravina was correct. In fact, the animal was suffering from a spinal cord injury, not from a cramp. 18:38 V'af ilu hachi and I will say nevertheless the halakha is hilkhos Rav Yemar. So, we'll say it's actually very important. Halakha l'maaseh, if you've seen an animal dragging its hind legs, that does not make the animal a treifah. We do not assume a spinal cord injury, instead what do we assume? Cramping of the hind legs and the animal is just simply dragging its legs behind it. Why? 18:58 Because shigruna shriyach, cramping is common, chud hashidra lo shriyach. But I will say spinal cord injury, that's not as common. Therefore, halakha l'maaseh, And assume that it's cramping and not spinal cord injury. Quite interesting. What take my advice. Am Rav Puna, also interesting you know, very interesting you know. 19:17 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Zucharin. [snorts] >> A menachem zaza what they say this is great. Rams. Right? Rams which are what's I know what the term is like uh Ramming. Right? Ramming each other. 19:33 Right? Ram that they're butting heads. Right? So so that they're constantly like like hitting each other. Listen to this. In Mishum Misukei Varum. This is actually quite amazing. What they say so We're not ultimately again because of Risukei Varum. We're not what they say that they injure themselves internally as a result of their ramming of heads. 19:53 What they say by the way you see an incredible something very interesting which is only animals actively hit one another and ram one another. Right? Knowingly and willingly. When you see human beings doing this even if they're wearing tight pants and helmets and a bunch of other things Mamesh Zelo Normali. Right? 20:11 That's not that's not the normal of Adam. Right? It just just a side commentary. You'll do with this what you want. Right? What they say but but but again you see so would you ever watch a pair of rams hitting heads with each other for 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon while eating wings. Right? Would you ever just sit on on your couch and watch rams doing it? So if you wouldn't watch rams doing it you have to ask what why we watch human beings doing it. Okay but that's a side point. What they say just 20:35 just my opinion. So if you have rams hitting each other in the head. Right? So what happens? In Mishum Misukei Varum. So you don't have to be Mishum Misukei Varum. Okay what they say apparently because that's the normal because that's the normal you don't have to be concerned that they're injuring each other. After all the midvil. What they say this is true even though they look like they are in 21:01 pain afterwards. Even though they look pained nevertheless you don't have to assume Varum. What they say the kind of similar to what they say. and I must say could assume that if they're in pain they may have developed some type of fever but not however enough I must say if after ramming their heads against each other they fall to the ground then 21:23 then I will say one would have to be ultimately again for I need this also incredible cases how many different the gun V listen to this. So the message the gun V gun of e and listen to this if sheep are stolen by thieves again if you own sheep generally what did you have around your house or around your pen you had a fence or a 21:48 wall and generally a high one what would thieves do so thieves would come into my come into my pen lift up my sheep and throw it over the wall but that's it that's it still sheep so I'll say you don't have to be that the stolen sheep become office because of the fall on the other side of the wall because of why not my time 22:14 I will say because thieves are skilled and when they throw the animal over the wall they make sure they do it in a way that animal will land on its front side so you will say when we're concerned about animal becoming a traitor that be for animal lands on its back we're going to see blunt trauma to the back of the animal could cause if it lands on its stomach side will call it that animal is going to be fine we assume that thieves 22:38 throw the animal over in such a way that it lands on its front side and I will say thieves have an vested interest in this why cuz I will say what the thieves need is as soon as the animal gets over that fence what do they need they need the animal to move right they need the animal to move that animal gets injured and you have to carry the sheep is absolutely you're not getting away too fast therefore they're careful with how they throw the animal over and therefore 23:02 the are the animal is not a treif. Our dream is to listen to this. But if the thief goes ahead and returns the animal, let's say the thief has a right, he has a change of heart and he wants to throw the animal back over the fence, then we'll say we're concerned. It's interesting. A thief takes a lot more care when ultimately stealing the animal than he does when returning the animal. When he 23:26 steals it, he's going to be careful to throw it over in a way that it lands on its feet. When he throws it back, just get rid of this. again, we'd have to be concerned for but we'll say watch this beautiful qualification. But honey maybe that I dream who you are. We'll say that's only if he's returning it because suddenly he got scared that maybe someone saw him stealing. I don't know what you do with your life. But I will say no again, sometimes people do 23:49 yesh sometimes a person has an instantaneous desire to change. He throws the sheep over the wall, sits himself, "What am I doing? What am I doing?" And he wants to return the sheep. If the return is motivated by a sense of then what a person is going to return it in a way that allows the animal to be whole and we don't have to be for so it's interesting. If he returns it 24:12 you have to you have to be concerned for if he returns it you have to how how you know that? How you know that? I don't know. You see him you see him go from there right to the to say to him I don't know you know whatever whatever the serious is it was a very interesting distinction. 24:29 Listen to this. The whole thing is so I would say if you hit the animal if you hit the animal on its head, I don't know what is happening over here is you hit the animal on on the head. You can imagine like a long staff. So the idea is I'm hitting it on the head and the the the staff also strikes the animal all the way down its length to the tail. Or the whole thing is or ultimately again you hit it by the 24:53 tail and it extends all the way up towards the head. Call in the whole thing is what is actually interesting. You don't have to be choshesh like that for risukei avarim. Why not? We're going to see. Where the trauma is diffused along the length of the animal, you don't have to be choshesh for risukei avarim. So, if you hit the animal with a long stick, you know, from the area of the head down to the tail, from the tail up to the head. Doesn't have to mean the head is included necessarily, but the idea is 25:16 you hit the animal along its length, you don't have to be choshesh for risukei avarim because the trauma is absorbed along the length of the animal. V'shalem chutra apalgei d'gava. But I will say if you go ahead and what? If you go ahead and uh here, if you look at Rashi, Rashi says Rashi says actually not yet. V'e sorry, 25:40 v'shalem chutra apalgei d'gava. I will say if you go ahead and you hit across, if you hit across the width of the back, then halacha l'maaseh chashinan. Then you have to be choshesh. Why I will say? Because there the trauma is felt on one localized part of the animal. It's not diffused along the length. V'ispei kitrei, I will say if the sto- if your stick that you're hitting the animal with has knots, so therefore again the 26:03 trauma is felt even more intensely, chashinan. Then ultimately again you have to be choshesh ultimately for a treifa. V'ima- v'imachi afsukei, chashinan. And if halacha l'maaseh again I will say if you take a look at Rashi again, Rashi says Where was this? 26:27 Did I lose the place in Rashi? Yeah, afsukei. I'm sorry. Look at Rashi, second line from the bottom. Afsukei b'hefsek l'maaseh l'rocha avagav chashinan l'chotza'as ha'nefesh. I will say it's the same case as before. If you hit the animal across the width of its back instead of the length, you don't have to be choshesh ultimately again for that trauma. Amrav Nachman. What does Amrav Nachman say? Second line from the bottom. Nun alef amud alef. Amrav Nachman base ha'rechem in b'mishum risukei avarim. I will say halacha 26:51 l'maaseh is actually very interesting. Look at Rashi base ha'rechem. When an animal is birthed, it comes through the birth canal. The birth canal is narrow. So I will say the Gamara says you don't have to be concerned that just by the process of being born that the animal is subject to what I will say we're going to see this this is later on. This is different so you get but I'll just point this 27:16 information for now. When you have a concern that an animal may have suffered from the way you have to deal with that is you wait 24 hours. If the animal survives 24 hours, the animal is totally fine. If it doesn't live out the 24 hours, we attribute its death to the Now watch this. The Gamara says when an animal is birthed, birthed, you don't have to be concerned for 27:39 I will say what does that mean to us practically? Practically, you could check it and eat it immediately. When an animal is born, you don't have to wait 24 hours before eating it. You could check it and eat it immediately. Says the Gamara we have a brice that supports you. This is a human child. 28:00 Right? If you have a human child, right? Who is even one day old but tell me so that getting into the technicalities over here. If you have a one day old and he has some type of emission, he could become if you hold that through the process of birth, right? Human being or animal, there is a potential then what? So I will say the is the net child at least within the first 24 hours 28:30 should not be subject to the laws of Why not? So I will say is that what? One of the first things we check for when it comes to is did the emission occur as a result of some type of illness or sickness? If it did, that's not called zivos. Because say you tell me that by by definition birth creates the possibility of risuk evarim, that would mean that if the 28:56 child would have any emission during the first 24 hours, that would not be zivos. We would attribute that ultimately again to the holy of risuk evarim. The fact that ultimately a one-day-old child could become a zav tells you that he's not a chola or at least that he's not risuk evarim, which is why he could become a zav. So what say from here you see another proof that birth, the process of birth, even though it causes the human or the animal to go through a 29:19 more restricted birth canal, does not go ahead and make a human being subject to the potential treifus or an animal says of risuk evarim. So the says not necessarily. How come I ask him, "What's the case here, Rebbi Shimon?" Maybe it could go on she yotzei derech dofen. Rebbi Shimon says, "Could very well be that halacha l'maaseh this case of the one-day-old baby becoming a zav is a C-section." Rebbi Shimon says, "In a C-section, there's no issue of risuk 29:43 evarim because there's no restriction of the birth canal. So maybe einach inami if the child was born in natural birth through the birth canal, maybe einach inami what? Maybe the the child would not be subject to the laws of zivos. So it's not really a raya." Tashma, egel she'nola b'yom tov shochtin oso b'yom tov. So what say here we go. If you have a calf that was born on Yom Tov, the halacha is you could shochtin on Yom Tov. So what say remember shchita is permitted on Yom Tov. Egel is born on 30:08 Yom Tov you could shochtin. So what say so what do you see from here? What you see from here Rebbi Shimon says is that what? You're allowed to shochtin an animal immediately when it's born. What does that tell you? That there's no chashash of risuk evarim as a result of the constriction of the birth canal. To which the Rebbi Shimon says, "No, I can say einach inami k'gon she yotzei derech dofen." Rebbi Shimon says, "It's possible that this is also a case of what? Yotzei dofen. Maybe also this animal was delivered through 30:31 C-section. That's why you could shochtin on Yom Tov because there's no chashash of risuk evarim." So the Gemara says, "Tashma, another potential proof. V'shavin she'nola t'umo imo she'zemanah muchan." So what say listen to this. So, this is actually talking about a Bechor animal. So, we'll say a halacha l'maaseh, if you have a Bechor animal that was born with its mum. Bechor animal is born with a mum. So, what say happens when a Bechor is born with a 30:55 mum? It's not consecrated. Suppose we listen to this. Let's say the Bechor ultimately again is born in the mum with with a mum. And therefore we're going to both say it is permitted to be shechted. She permitted to even do this on Yom Tov. 31:24 So, we'll say again, what do you see from here? Now, this is happens to be a Bechor. The Bechor piece of what say is not as important for us as much as this detail that you're permitted to shechted it immediately on Yom Tov, which again tells me that there's no chashash risukei varim as a result of the process of birth. 31:42 Maybe you'll say this is also a C-section case. It's a C-section. I will say, does an animal become kedushas Bechor if it's delivered via C-section? Rebbe Yochanan I will say Rebbe Shimon agrees that I will say when it comes to kedushas specifically over here by Bechor that an animal does not have Bechor status if it is birthed if it is if it is birthed via a 32:10 C-section. So, we'll say so what's the case? So, what's the case? So, we'll say so now watch this. Look at Rashi. So, we'll say so what is the case? What is the case? Where ultimately again we allow you to shechted an animal that's born that very day. And we're not choshesh for risukei varim. What's the case? Kegon shehifris al gabei karka. 32:36 Look at Rashi. Rashi Shifris al gabbi karka nin al lamod bitakov parsos al lamod. I mean a common gabbi nifula um dam nifilasa in shifris. What's the What's the case? The animal stood on its own two feet. Right? If the animal hifris al gabbi karka means the animal stood up. If the animal stood up Rabbo say that tells us that what? There is no risuk evarim and 32:59 the animal's absolutely permitted for shrita that very day. That very day. So what say the gemara goes lighter. V'amrad Nachman bar Nachman says base hamidbachim in ba mishum risuke evarim. What does the gemara now goes lighter. So what's the situation? Base hamidbachim Rabbo say means the the butcher house, the slaughter house. Now watch this. So the gemara says the slaughter house in ba mishum risuke 33:22 evarim. Look at Rashi be base hamidbachim kisham apilin al sala aris shachto afilu mi makam goas. What say the case over here is it's actually very interesting. The shacht the animal, what do you have to do? You have to push it to the ground. You have to push it to the ground. A little bit different. 33:37 Shrita technology is a bit different today, but you have to push it to the ground. So what say we're not concerned that when you push the animal to the ground there's going to be an issue of risuk evarim. Why not? So the gemara says the gemara tells the story. Who tura de nafla there was a ox that was pushed over. V'ishtama kol nigihu say. 33:56 And what say ultimately again it groaned as it was pushed over as it fell. Al uv Yisrak bar Shimon bar Marta. So what say ultimately Yisrak bar Marta came along shokal mishipuri shufri and he bought from the best pieces of meat. From the best pieces of meat. In other words what say showing what? 34:14 The animal was absolutely kosher. Amri Rabbonan min al ha kol. So the Rabbonan said how do you know the animal's kosher? How do you know what say first of all in this case also the animal groaned. That's the other piece also. So how do you know that just as a result of it pushed over that there was no risuk evarim? 34:29 So the gemara says amri lei hachi amar Rav siparnav noit achi magila artsa. cuz we understand the animal tries to center its gravity a little bit. Literally translated, the animal digs its heels in until it reaches the ground. So we'll say the idea is it's not just that it's not just the total fall, the animal tries to shift its own the animal realizes that it's being pushed over, it tries to shift its weight a little bit 34:53 thereby cushioning the fall. So because the fall fall is cushioned ultimately what? The animal the animal is not there's no issue of varim. I'm going to under in a so we'll say another interesting case. Under Rashi says I'm a so enough so enough in a she has so listen to this. If an 35:16 animal falls off an elevated place, we'll say so the remember again the issue of is an issue of potential varim. I really said the name of Rav if the animal stands up after falling down, you do not have to wait 24 hours before so we'll say as we're going to see later on the is where the animal fell down or any case of varim, the way kind of you 35:40 see what's happening is you wait 24 hours. If the animal lives, we're good. If the animal dies, it's it's a we'll say however the says if after falling the animal stands up, that is enough of an indication that's what? That there was no varim and the animal is fine. The day value. But I will say but the is 36:02 that after you the animal it surely requires a surely inner examination of the spinal cord and other parts of the animal as well. However, but I will say the is in a but I will say the in fact is a bit different and the is that it does not require a but here but I have actually so we'll say the idea being once it stands on its own feet, that's enough of 36:26 a riel that it is not suffering from res okay bottom. Love here but of a she over a casa of a casa of a dica. The here but I should say it was saying all of these cases the animal is going to require ultimately again a bedica. I'm going to be here but I come over push your the llama. So I say let's say after falling after falling the animal extends its front leg to stand up. I have a piece of 36:51 a llama even though it didn't stand up or a crowd rag like or I will say it it lifted its foot in an effort to walk. I have a piece of a llama even though it did not walk. I have a piece of a llama even though the llama I have a piece of a llama even though the llama says even if I was a llama even though it started to stand up even though it didn't stand up. So I was saying all of these cases all of these llamas are saying this is enough of an expression of vitality to 37:16 show that there's no issue of res okay bottom. The llama I have I will say the llama is here the llama I have a llama dog. 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The truth is we're supposed to say in case of the fall of the animal falls, we actually need to check the entire cavity of the animal. By the stomach cavity. You have to check the entire chest stomach cavity to make sure there's no internal injury. I'm going to be who not my bridge of Nehemiah. Let's say she money in my way. Let's say what about the she money? You have to check the she money in this kind of case. Let's say 38:49 when there's a the fall, do I have to be concerned that maybe the corner or the veshet were dislodged as well? To which the Gamara says, I'm going to lay she money in question in eight on the fever. No, you don't have to worry about the she money. The she money are sturdy. The she money are not usually dislodged from a fall. 39:07 I'm going to be who are she well. Let's say she not but up near my way. Let's listen to this case. What happens if a bird like slams against the surface of the water? So what say in this case over here, instead of the bird doing a graceful dive into water, so what happens? Let's say the bird slams into the surface of the water. So what happens under those circumstances? Ocean up in the air mine. Cave and she shot 39:30 below come a so dial. Let's say once it goes ahead and it swims its own length, that's up. So swimming of the bird in the water is enough of an expression of vitality that the bird is not a treif. So what say how much does it have to swim? Only the length of its body. 39:46 Relatively small amount. Below Allah me matter what say that's only if it's upstream. How about the matter me matter mine with the ash walls. What say when it's swimming an expression of vitality? Only when it's swimming upstream. If it's swimming downstream, then what? That is not an expression of vitality. Why? What say what is that called? That's called the current taking it. The e-maya came 40:10 in less than a month. What say if I look at the mice again, the water was standing water, then again, no matter which direction it goes ahead and it swims that will be enough of an expression. However, says the Gemara, the shot that CV the cod may hot cod may so let's listen to this. If there are wood chips floating in the water it's actually very interesting if there are wood chips floating in the water the cod may or let's say if you look at Rashi cod may it's in the wide lines of Rashi 40:34 two four six lines in the cod may e who let's CV. If my sir there's wood chips in the water and the bird is swimming faster than the wood chips in the water even though I'll say if they're both swimming with the current I feel sorry the cave in the cod may e who let's CV e who the cod may so we'll say if the bird if the bird swims faster 40:57 than the wood chips even if everything's going downstream that's also an expression of vitality because that shows that it is the bird's force which is propelling it even though it's going down the the fact that the bird is going faster than the items floating in the water indicates that it's the bird's vitality that is propelling it forward and therefore the bird is not a treif animal. 41:16 Today take a moment of silence until tomorrow. Thank you all very much.
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